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Drew
Total posts: 5115
Privatization FTW? FTL?

I guess there aren't any laws requiring the IRS to host it. And a private company could do it for cheaper. And a university will do it for free (saps). I would say write your congressman about requiring the govt to host the IRC online but that seems too tame of an undertaking for the 409.
acelxix
Total posts: 2398
United States Code Title 26: Internal Revenue Code See page 24 and on for Section 1.

I'm not sure why they would even link to the Cornell website but I guess it provides search features that the uscode.house.gov site doesn't.
acelxix
Total posts: 2398
I'm not certain of the constitutionality of the law but the IRS tries to address it
here.
scott
Total posts: 1076
Sixteenth Amendment seems to hold it's ground.


However the Federal Reserve Act appears to be unconstitutional.
mike
Total posts: 2298
heh i was about to point that out when i read the first post. of course the constitution doesn't allow for an income tax that's why they had to pass an amendment all part of the idea that the federal gov't has no powers that the constitution and amendments do not specifically state or that is all powers not specifically given to the federal gov't belong to the states. where it starts getting lame is when the courts appointed NOT elected decide to interpret the constitution in a way that conveniently confers powers to the federal govt that it did not previously have. e.g. claiming corporations are persons (while for a time slaves were not!?!?) therefore subject to federal protection in their pusuits of success and so forth. Ghey.
mike
Total posts: 2298
hm. Wikipedia says:
In Brushaber v. Union Pacific Railroad[9] the Supreme Court indicated that the Sixteenth Amendment did not give the Congress a new power to tax incomes as Congress already had that power. Although an income tax on income from property had been deemed (under Pollock above) to be a direct tax and an income tax on wages etc. had been deemed to be an indirect tax (an excise) the Court in Brushaber decided that after the Sixteenth Amendment the Constitution allows Congress to tax any incomes without apportionment among the states by population (and without regard to any census or enumeration) regardless of the source of the income -- that is regardless of whether the particular income tax is deemed direct (such as a tax on income from property) or indirect (i.e. an excise such as a tax on income from labor). The Sixteenth Amendment made the distinction between a direct tax and an indirect tax constitutionally irrelevant with respect to the apportionment of income taxes by removing the apportionment requirement for income taxes. In Brushaber the Court upheld the validity of the Federal income tax statute under the U.S. Constitution as amended by the Sixteenth Amendment.

so i was wrong about what i said at first
mike
Total posts: 2298
woof and this is good too. Yeah i have no info besides wikipedia. whatever.
Steven
Total posts: 751
I like the "Arguments about constitutionality in criminal cases" section. Basically if you argue that income taxes are unconstitutional that potentially shows that you willfully avoided paying taxes and can be used as evidence against you in a tax evasion prosecution.
scott
Total posts: 1076
these might come in handy



Saxby Chambliss Senate (202) 224-3521


Johnny Isakson Senate (202) 224-3643


Rep. John Barrow 12th District

213 Cannon House Office Building

Washington DC 20515


Rep. Nathan Deal 10th District (202) 225-5211


Rep. Phil Gingrey 11th District 202-225-2931



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