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NCAA Football
DrJustin
Total posts: 200
11/26/2006 2:18 PM
Reading the rules all 200+ pages it seems to all come down to whether the ball came to rest or not. if it didnt then the play as called was correct but if it did the play is dead. so my guess is that there wasnt enough evidence to overturn the call on the field. so drew get cracking on that video. i expect to have it within 48 hours. by the way since i was the only gt fan in sight where i was my opinion of the call was not appreciated.
Oscar
Total posts: 1323
11/26/2006 2:59 PM
coming to rest only applies to punts and kickoffs. a fumble is live until someone has complete control of the ball
DrJustin
Total posts: 200
11/26/2006 3:15 PM
Hate to be an ass but according to the ncaa rules in the fumbles/live and dead ball section i think around page 95 they describe dead balls on a fumble. they even have a crazy rule where if a ball is fumbled and is at rest in-bounds and is not attempted to be picked up by a player it is dead also.
something like "if a backwards pass or fumble comes to rest in-bounds and is not secured the ball becomes dead and belongs to the passing or fumbling team."
something like "if a backwards pass or fumble comes to rest in-bounds and is not secured the ball becomes dead and belongs to the passing or fumbling team."
DrJustin
Total posts: 200
11/26/2006 3:25 PM
and drew i'm only giving you 48 hours because you of all people should know that if a crime isnt solved within 48 hours it probably wont be. according to the tv
Oscar
Total posts: 1323
11/26/2006 4:02 PM
the exact quote is... "When a backward pass or fumble comes to rest inbounds and no player attempts to secure it the ball becomes dead and belongs to the passing or fumbling team at the dead-ball spot."
but there WERE attempts to secure it ;)
but there WERE attempts to secure it ;)
DrJustin
Total posts: 200
11/26/2006 4:48 PM
Yes that is the quote i was talking about as far as the crazy rule goes. But to me (from the reading and i could be wrong) if the ball stops rolling and a player has the ball pinned to the ground with his hand while he is on the ground (sort of like michael vick after he stretches/fumbles) the ball is down. i'm not saying a simple touch will do but if the ball is pinned beneath a hand it should be whistled down for the ball is under control. but in my scanning of the rule book i see nothing dealing with the proper way to secure a football or any dog pile rules.
DrJustin
Total posts: 200
11/26/2006 5:03 PM
there are too many rules but one i find interesting is rule 9 section 3 article 2b "the runner shall not grasp a teammate; and no other player of his team shall grasp push lift or charge into him to assist him in forward progress."
if i'm understanding that correctly this rule is violated all the time. and that brings back memories to the usc/nd game last year where reggie bush charged into matt leinart as he attempted to sneak in the winning touchdown (and if you remember correctly bush's push helped leinart on his second effort).
ok im done with rules. gonna wait for that video
if i'm understanding that correctly this rule is violated all the time. and that brings back memories to the usc/nd game last year where reggie bush charged into matt leinart as he attempted to sneak in the winning touchdown (and if you remember correctly bush's push helped leinart on his second effort).
ok im done with rules. gonna wait for that video
Oscar
Total posts: 1323
11/27/2006 12:19 AM
yes everyone knows that was an illegal move but no one seems to care since it helped FUSC win. the announcers mentioned it during the FUSC/ND game this weekend and said "but who cares among friends?" another big FU to USC and their media and ref fan boys!
Oscar
Total posts: 1323
11/27/2006 12:25 AM
that game was incredibly hard to watch not only cause ND was stinking it up but also cause the FUSC band only knows one farking song and plays it after every damn play. had to put it on mute many many times
Steven
Total posts: 751
11/27/2006 1:12 AM
To throw in my two cents from the replays I saw it looked like nobody ever really gained possession or even had the ball pinned down and I don't think it had completely come to rest. Originally I thought it had to be bullshit but from the replays I couldn't really argue with the call.